We interviewed the County Sheriff Jim Winder – “The Sheriff Who Sold His County” – on local AM radio (K-TALK – 630 AM) in Salt Lake County on June 6, 2011. This is extremely important, so please listen and read the following information.
Remember, this is an elected public office-holder that is talking here. This guy is slippery, but even the best of predators can eventually be backed into a corner…
“…We are moving towards a model that is much more efficient than a regular public entity.”
Hear the 45 minute interview here:
Download the interview here: https://realitybloger.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/sheriff_jim_winder_dalew_and_clint_06062011_edit.mp3
Or listen to the full 90 minute show here:
Download the full interview here: https://realitybloger.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/sheriff_jim_winder_dalew_and_clint_06062011_full.mp3
And hear our interview with the Mayor of the county as he admits to the vast wealth in the county CAFR and over $650 million in funds that could have been used to pay for the police, here:
Note: I confused the term “multi-jurisdictional” with “Unification”, though they are virtually the same thing in this case. The state of Utah has multi-jurisdictional police and other “special district” agency agreements. Sadly, I am learning as I uncover each stone, and while the Sheriff made sure to attempt to discredit me at every turn, he never offers the correct information or facts about what is the Unified Police Department until the very end of this interview. I cannot find the Articles of Incorporation for which he speaks, nor any other pertinent documents as these are no doubt on the “protected records” list as afforded in Utah H.B. 116, now codified into Utah CODE. Therefore, this type of exchange is necessary to uncover even the small crumbs of information that allow me to piece together this new and unknown (to myself) layer of government.
In this interview, our combative and obfuscating Sheriff, who has turned the power of the Sheriff’s Department over to a “Special Tax Financing District” – also called a “Special Service District” – inadvertently reveals his true colors and lets us know that our new corporate police force is actually a 3rd level of government – a district – that can bypass voter approval to raise revenue/fees (taxes) within its county council created boundaries (service area), and charge those fees with late charges to the homeowners property tax if this fee is not paid within a certain time period.
To put this into perspective, Salt Lake County also has a “Unified Fire Department” special district for which similar fees are paid.
And just what happens around the country if you – the home or business owner – don’t pay the “service fee”?
“FIREFIGHTERS WATCH AS HOME BURNS:
GENE CRANICK’S HOUSE DESTROYED IN TENNESSEE OVER $75 FEE (VIDEO)”
The Huffington Post | Adam J. Rose First Posted: 10- 5-10 12:12 AM
This may happen to you!
One might wish to pose these questions of our police department CEO…
If I don’t pay my “Police Protection Fee“, will I not get police protection?
If my house is being robbed, will the police just watch this crime happen as they sip their coffee and gobble their dozen doughnuts?
If my son is kidnapped…?
If my daughter is being raped…?
These “special districts” are everywhere. They are your school districts, your sewer, water, phone, and trash districts. Sometimes their fees are specifically apportioned, and sometimes they are not.
When the Sheriff so arrogantly states in this interview that the Unified Police Department “never charged a (police protection) fee” and that “until I understand my financing models I shouldn’t spout off“, and that the Salt Lake Valley Law Enforcement Service Area (SLVLESA) was the one that charged the fee, the Sheriff was actually, in his own way, telling the truth.
As it turns out, each “special district” is in fact independent from each other. I made the mistake of thinking logically and reasonably; picturing a series of “districts” very much like a set of puzzle pieces that fit together with actual legal boundaries or borders. But the reality of this districting is that we must consider each individual district in a three or four-dimensional realm. In other words, districts may overlap with each other. I can actually live in 1,000 individual districts that all intersect with and cross over each other. There can be districts inside of other districts, which on paper have nothing to do with each other.
Therefore, I have a Sewer District, a School District, a Fire District, a Water District, a F.E.M.A. district, multiple local, county, state, and a Federal Districts, a Power District, a Police District, a Mosquito Abatement District, an Emergency 911 District, a Trash District, a Zoning District, and on and on and on…
So if you picture a numerous bunch of circles or rings stacked on top of each other on a map of your county, overlapping and conjoining but never being attached with each other – that is what your local, county, and state “special districts” would look like – all completely independent and yet somehow acting as a “unified” incorporated government district operation.
Or if it’s easier, picture the Russian Babushka dolls of old, where inside each doll is a similar but smaller doll; each of these being a separate but smaller district inside another district, independent of each other but collectively controlled as one.
And each district has a “special” function. Some, like the SLVLESA, are strictly there to collect a fee, and work around the voting process which says that by law no taxes can be charged. But a “district fee” is different. It is a hidden tax that must be paid, or else it will eventually be attached as a lien on your property tax in the senior lien position, and the county or state treasurer will eventually take your home for payment of this “fee”. So this tax starts its life as a seemingly innocent fee, and then morphs into a tax when it is not paid.
In other words, this is not a voluntary tax.
It is instead designed to TAKE your money at the barrel of a gun, or in this case, at the cost of what you thought was your home, land, and property.
So these districts are actually worse than I thought… and thanks to this treasonous Sheriff’s slip up and his unintended disclosure towards the end of this interview, we now know that the Unified Police Department (UPD) is a separate “district” as well. And we now know that, even though the sole purpose of the Salt Lake Valley Law Enforcement Service Area (SLVLESA) “district” is to collect and provide revenue (fees/taxes) for the Unified Police Department (special district), the UPD is indeed as the Sheriff claims – a separate incorporated entity (an unconnected special district).
While before I was confused as to why the Sheriff kept claiming that the Unified Police Department has never charged a fee or raised a tax, I now understand that this is in fact a very clever way to completely separate his department and himself as CEO of this department (service area) from this “police protection fee” in another district, so that he can claim to be independent of this other unlawful special district’s actions, while he and his department are still the main beneficiary of that “police protection fee” (tax) charged by the independent SLVLESA district. Likewise, the mayor and councilmen can run for re-election on an incumbent campaign, or even a run for the governorship, with the actual slogan that they “have never raised property or other taxes” while in office!!!
These special service and tax districts are incrementally taking over our government, one function at a time. Like a pie chart with thousands and thousands of slices, traditional government is disappearing as this special district scheme plays out across the country, and the takeover of America’s infrastructure and public departments happens one area at a time.
In a few days, I will interview someone who can explain this from a corporate perspective. Until then, please continue to pass this and my previous interview on, as well as “The Sheriff Who Sold His County” article here:
My only protection for the exposure of this information is your willingness to make this a national issue – to cause outrage and blow back. Demand that your local news outlets cover this story.
I have no one to protect me from this CEO / Sheriff, or his special district of private police…
–Clint Richardson (realitybloger.wordpress.com)
–Monday, June 6th, 2011